Cybersecurity advisement under two U.S. Presidents | Cyber Work Podcast

Guest AJ Grotto is the William J. Perry International Security Fellow and founding director of the Program on Geopolitics, Technology and Governance at the Stanford Policy Center and Stanford University. He breaks down the work he did at his most high-profile job, acting as cybersecurity advisor under two successive presidents, and explains how the process was often a bit like “herding cats.”

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